Comments on: Suction

By: DrNathan

DrNathan — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 22:14:51 +0000

jujdred,

Your issue must be somehow related to how Windows itself is handling archives for you. What applications do you use for managing archives on your machine?

Suction simply uses the Windows File.Move() function to relocate the files, so it is highly unlikely that Suction itself is the reason for this behavior.

I have tried replicating your situation by placing large numbers of archives (rar, zip, 7z, tar, bz) in a tree of folders and using Suction to pull them all to the top. As expected, the archives are moved, but no extraction takes place.

By: jujdred

jujdred — Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:33:41 +0000

I have a situation where Suction is diving into my archives such as rar, zip, 7z, etc and pulling EVERYTHING out. It’s not pretty. I had over 36,000 files show up in my folder. Is there some way to prevent that? Is a compressed file treated as a folder? How about if I created a new FOLDER in which to place my zippable files into and then zipping it? Would that stop it?

Thanks,

By: DrNathan

DrNathan — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:24:13 +0000

Sergio,

You need to ensure that you have .Net installed, preferably .Net 3.5. I use Suction on Windows 7 (x86 and x64) all the time, so you should be able to as well.

Check the status of your .Net install and let me know what happens.

By: Sergio Ramos

Sergio Ramos — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 16:33:53 +0000

I first run Suction in windows vista without any problems.

I’m trying to used in Windows 7 and it doesn´t work. I try with different folders.

I downloa version 1.3.5.

By: DrNathan

DrNathan — Mon, 01 Mar 2010 15:09:17 +0000

German,

At a minimum, I .Net 2.0 is required for Suction, but some newer features rely on v3.5. You should install v2.0 if you want basic functionality. Suction is only fully supported with v3.5.

By: German

German — Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:26:02 +0000

I’m trying to install suction in a XP professional, without .net or any programing soft, and doesn’t works. Give me a message “Application can’t be inicializating corretly (0xc0000135)………….
What is necessary to run Suction?
obligatorily needs .net 3.5? because before format my computer I hadn’t .net 3.5 and It works fine.

Thanks,……….
And sorry for my english, because I’m spanish.

By: john

john — Mon, 22 Feb 2010 11:31:00 +0000

Hi sorry for the delay in getting back to you, i was just waiting for the files I normally get that this happpens on so I can try and recreate it again.

Here are the logs you requested. I thought the problem might have been the long pathway issue that Windows has (260 characters IIRC) but the files furthest in the sub-folder didn’t get renamed liked during some other tests I did probably suggesting it didn’t reach the limit but it still got deleted. Whilst those that were truncated to short filenames worked fine. I still think the issue is connected to the length of characters involved but that one that got deleted may have been because I somehow bypassed the character limit without realising it.

http://rapidshare.com/files/354183415/SuctionLogs.rar

Here are some test and results i got:
Main root folder is moved to:
X:\Americas.Best.Dance.Crew\New Folder

Avi file is now located at:
X:\Americas.Best.Dance.Crew\New Folder\Randy Jackson Presents Americas Best Dance Crew S05E04 WS DSR XviD

DVSKY\randy_jackson_presents_americas_best_dance_crew_s05e04_ws_dsr_xvid-dvsky_par2\

and renamed to RANDYJ~1.AVI
Suction is done on “New folder”

Suction = FINE. 7 Files Present, 0 Folders (albeit files still retain the short name).

X:\Americas.Best.Dance.Crew\New Folder\Randy Jackson Presents Americas Best Dance Crew S05E04 WS DSR XviD

DVSKY\randy_jackson_presents_americas_best_dance_crew_s05e04_ws_dsr_xvid-dvsky_par2\
contains:
randy.jackson.presents.americas.best.dance.crew.s05e04.ws.dsr.xvid-dvsky.avi

Suction deletes

By: DrNathan

DrNathan — Tue, 16 Feb 2010 15:12:11 +0000

Luke,

I am running Win7 x64 at home and have no issues with Suction. Do you have UAC enabled? Are you ever prompted for elevation when running the app? Personally, I have UAC disabled at home and it works fine. I would be interested in hearing more about your configuration.

John,

Glad the tool has been helpful, and I am sorry to hear you are having issues with it. By chance, can you elaborate a bit more on the problem? Are files disappearing when you have a very long folder path, or when one folder name in that path is particularly long? Either? Both?

I would love to see what the log looks like after a Suction where this occurs.

By: Luke H

Luke H — Sun, 14 Feb 2010 06:35:50 +0000

win7 x64 suction v1.3.5 cant drag any folders……. get the “NO” symbol. tried running as admin & also non-admin. neither works. help?

By: john

john — Fri, 12 Feb 2010 20:21:19 +0000

This has been a very useful tool in keeping the clutter down on my computer and helping with organising, but one major thing I have noticed is that files that you want will get deleted after a suction if the pathway is really long. I usually need to resolve this by first renaming the folders to something smaller before I try a suction again.

I don’t know if this has been mentioned, apologies if it has – i have not been able to find it in the comments or history.

By: Robin

Robin — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 03:04:31 +0000

Yes I know. Currently Suction destroys the folder hierarchy. Which is why I hope to ask for this feature, to preserve the hierarchy but removing the empty folders within

By: DrNathan

DrNathan — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:21:18 +0000

That’s really beyond the functionality of Suction. With your folder structure, Suction does the following:

folder1
+emptyfolder
++emptyfolder
+++folderwithcontent1
++++folderwithcontent2

Becomes:

folder1
+files from folderwithcontent1
+files from folderwithcontent2

Yes, Suction removes empty directories, but only after pulling ALL files from ALL sub-directories to the top. It does not selectively save folders that contain files – that would be counter intuitive to what Suction is made to do.

By: Robin

Robin — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 03:21:20 +0000

Hi, I tested Vanity Remover, it wasn’t able to remove the folder. My earlier post had a folder structure but the blog removed the spaces. The empty folder containts only 1 folder like this

folder1
+emptyfolder
++emptyfolder
+++folderWithContent
++++folderWithContent

So it becomes

folder1
+folderWithContent
++folderWithContent

The emptyFolder menas it only contains 1 folder, so to suction it upwards.

By: DrNathan

DrNathan — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 15:05:22 +0000

The functionality you seem to be describing is simply removing empty folders from a tree, rather than Suctioning or consolidating all sub-folders into a root folder.

If that is what you are looking to do, I would suggest looking into Vanity Remover – it simply removes all empty folders under the folder you specify. You can read more about it here: http://www.downloadsquad.com/2010/01/25/vanity-remover-quickly-find-and-remove-delete-empty-folders/

By: Robin

Robin — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 09:29:32 +0000

Hi, great tool. I have a feature request, can you preserve the non empty folders, while removing the empty ones.

e.g

folder1
emptyfolder
emptyfolder
folderWithContent
folderWithContent

to become

folder1
folderWithContent
folderWithContent